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GENEALOGICAL NOTES AND ANECDOTES

   

ANTECEDENTS and DESCENDANTS
of
ROBERT HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE
(
25 March 1543 - 22 March 1614)

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SOYEZ FERME
[Image Credit: 2004, Martin S. J. Goldstraw: Cheshire Heraldry]

   

G0515A: Mathew HYDE of HYDE [025]
Birth: ABT 1167, Hyde, County Cheshire, England
Death: AFT 1204, Hyde, County Cheshire, England

Marriage: ABT 1190
Spouse: Unknown UNKNOWN

Child 1: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1193, Hyde, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1241, <Hyde, County Cheshire>, England) [M]: m. Agnes de HERDISLEE

Child 2: Richard HYDE of HYDE [M]

Note 1: From George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 807:

  "HYDE: About the time of King John (1199 - 1216) one moiety of this township [held of the BAGGILEGHs,] was vested in a family which bore the local name, and was then represented by Mathew de HYDE, who had issue, according to Dugdales's pedigree,1 II. Sir Robert HYDE, kt. son and heir, [but who does not occur as a knight: this evidently being a mis-reading of an original document,] who was lord of this manor and Newton (or part thereof), in Cheshire, Shalcross and Ferneley in Derbyshire, and Halghton and Denton in Lancashire, in which county he had also [4, not] 9 oxgangs of land in Heiton."

Editorial Note:

  1. Dugdale's pedigree: This was Sir William Dugdale (1605 - 1686) whose visitation of Cheshire occurred in 1663 - 64.
   

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G0514A: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE
Birth: ABT 1193, Hyde, County Cheshire, England
Death: AFT 1241, Norbury, County Cheshire>, England
Father: Mathew HYDE of HYDE (ABT 1167, Hyde, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1204, Hyde, County Cheshire, England)
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN

Marriage: ABT 1214
Spouse: Agnes de HERDISLEE

Child 1: Hugh HYDE (alias de DENE) of NORBURY and HYDE [M]

Child 2: Sir Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1219, Hyde, County, Cheshire, England - ABT 1290, Hyde, County, Cheshire, England) [M]: m1. Margery de STOKPORT, ABT 1244: m2. Alice HYDE

Note 1: From George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 810:

  Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was the "grantee of Ric. de NORBERIE (probably in franc-marriage) of Norberie and Neuton; Heton and Sakelcros, and Fernilee, co. Derb. between 1209-28; was lord of half Hyde, and of Halghton and Denton, co. Lanc. circ. 1225."

Note 2: By another marriage, Agnes de HERDISLEE, the wife of Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE and the cousin and heir of Thomas de NORBURY, engendered John, also cousin and heir of Thomas de NORBURY.

   

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G0513A: Sir Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [023]
Birth: ABT 1219, Hyde, County Cheshire, England
Death: ABT 1290, Hyde, County Cheshire, England
Father: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1193, Hyde, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1241, Norbury, County Cheshire>, England)
Mother: Agnes de HERDISLEE

Marriage: ABT 1244
Spouse: Margery de STOKPORT

Child 1: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1260, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1320, Norbury, County Cheshire, England) [M]: m. Isabel BAGGILEY of BAGGILEY

Child 2: Alexander HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]: m. Unknown UNKNOWN

Other Marriage: No Date
Spouse: Alice HYDE

Note 1: From George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 807:

  "III. [Sir] Robert [de HYDE,] son of this Robert, married, according to to the same authority (Sir William Dugdale), ....... cosyn and heir of Thomas de NORBURY, by which marriage the lordship of Norbury came to the HYDEs, but it appears probable that this match refers to the preceding generation, as the second Robert certainly married [Margery, whose father, Sir Robert de STOKPORT, gave to Robert son of Robert de HYDE, in frank-marriage with her, lands in Bredbury. About the end of the reign of Hen. III, Sir Robert STOKPORT, son of the said Sir Robert, gives to the said Robert HYDE, lands in Romelegh, in exchange for these frank-marriage lands. The said Robert HYDE, to all appearance, also married to his first or second wife (?) the] Alice de HYDE mentioned in the following pedigree, and appears to have had an elder brother, John; which John, as "son of Agnes de HERDISLEE, cousin and heiress of Thomas de NORBURY," quitclaims to Robert his right in Norbury, Newton, and half of Hyde. This grant implies an earlier union of Norbury and Hyde than Dugdale's pedigree would allow, and in the subjoined genealogical table is marked by dotted loines, leaving the male descent unaltered.

"This Robert had issue Sir John HYDE, knt., son and heir, [who, however, does not occur as a knight,] and Alexander ancestor of the HYDEs of DENTON, an adjacent township on the Lancashire bank of the Tame, which he had by gift of his father."

Note 2: Sir Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE died in the reign of Edward I, Longshanks, that is, between 1272 and 1307.

Note 3: From George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 810:

  Alice HYDE, the wife of Robert HYDE of HYDE, Lord of Norbury, was "the daughter of William HYDE, son of Elias de HYDE, with whom the said William and Alice his wife gave lands, temp. Henry III, in frank-marriage in Hyde. [Williamson Vill. Cest., omitted by Dugdale]"
   

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G0512A: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [022]
Birth: ABT 1260, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: AFT 1320, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Father: Sir Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (1219, Hyde, County Cheshire, England - ABT 1290, Hyde, County Cheshire, England)
Mother: Margery de STOKPORT

Marriage: ABT 1295
Spouse: *Isabel BAGGILEY of BAGGILEY

Child 1: Sir John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1300, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1364, Norbury County Cheshire, England) [M]: m1. Margaret DAVENPORT of WHELTROUGH (ABT 1305, Wheltrough, County Cheshire, England - BY 1350, Norbury, County Cheshire, England), AFT 1329 [See G0509B: Margaret DAVENPORT of WHELTROUGH in Descendants of Orme de Davenport (1086 - AFT 1136)]: m2. Alice UNKNOWN

Child 2: Richard HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]

Child 3: William HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]: m. Katherine UNKNOWN

Note 1: From George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, pp. 807 - 808:

  "III. John de HYDE [occurs 5 Edw. II (Pl. Ro.), as obtaining by fine of Robert, son of Richard de Dewysnape, and Hawis his wife, 17 acres in Hyde. He] married to his second wife, one of the daughters of Sir William BAGGILEY of BAGGILEY, sister and coheiress of John BAGGILEY of BAGGILEY; [which Sir William gave to the said John HYDE, in frank-marriage with Isabel his daughter, a weir for their mills in Halghton, upon the river Tame, wherever they chose to make it withing the metes of Hyde.] On this [John, called in error by Leycester] Sir John, was settled by the said Sir William in 13 Edw. II, "the mannor of Hyde," meaning most probably the other moiety of Hyde, which afterwards passed to the other sister; but he nevertheless obtained several estates by this marriage (as mentioned in Godley), and the HYDEs henceforth used the coat of BAGGILEY, inverting the colours and adding a chevron for difference. [Note: The armorial device of the family BAGGILEY is described thus: Or three lozenges azure. See the armorial device of the family HYDE above.] [It is somewhat doubtful how the other (Baggiley) moiety passed by this settlement: but before the reign of Ric. II it had become vested in the Leghs of Adlington as hereafter noticed. The tenure of the HYDES of HYDE moiety was of Legh of Baguley, most probably being made, by the subinfeudation, tenable of the lordship of Baggilegh - the inheritance of the eldest co-heiress.

"In the same year (13 Edw. II), John de HYDE is found obtaining by fine of William de Ruylegh, chaplain, the manor of Norbury (excepting 7 mess. 100 acres), and the other moiety of the manor of Hyde. By his marriage with Isabel BAGGILEY, he had issue."

Note 2: Richard HYDE was the grantee, of his parents, of lands in Hurdesfeld in 1317.

Note 3: William HYDE was, of the Chetwynds, the grantee of lands in Matley in the 14th year of Edward III 9 (1341).

   

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G0511A: Sir John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [021]
Birth: ABT 1300, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: AFT 1364, Norbury County Cheshire, England
Father: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1260, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1320, Norbury, County Cheshire, England)
Mother: *Isabel BAGGILEY of BAGGILEY

Marriage: AFT 1329
Spouse: Margaret DAVENPORT of WHELTROUGH (ABT 1305, Wheltrough, County Cheshire, England - BY 1350, Norbury, County Cheshire, England) [See G0509B: Margaret DAVENPORT of WHELTROUGH in Descendants of Orme de Davenport (1086 - AFT 1136).]

Child 1: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1330, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - BEF 1358, Norbury, County Cheshire, England) [M]

Child 2: Roger HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]

Child 3: William HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]: m. Alice de BROMHALL

Child 4: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1333, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1401, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England) [M]: m. Margaret de STAVELEGH

Child 5: Ralph HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]: m. Unknown UNKNOWN

Child 6: John HYDE of MOTTRAM [M]

Child 7: Hugh HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (1349, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1399, England) [M]: m. Unknown UNKNOWN

Child 8: Margery HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [F]

Other Marriage: AFT 1350
Spouse: Alice UNKNOWN

Child 1: Thomas HYDE of WARFORD [M]: m. Marion (or Mary) TABBELEGH of NETHER KNUTTESFORD

Note 1: About Sir John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, from George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p.808:

  "IV. Sir John de HYDE, who is confounded with his father by Ormerod, was in possession in 1342, knighted before 1348, served in the wars of the period, and occurs in a recog. 24, 25 Edw. III by Robert de Legh to the Earl, that the 71 archers led by Sir John de HYDE, kt. in the king's war, should not claim a certain reward granted by the lord prince. 28 Edw. III. Sir John was next remainderman in fee in another settlement of the Baggaley moiety of Hyde Itherein called "the manor"), made by John, son of William de Baggilegh, to whom it was limited in tail, by his feoffee Sir John de Legh; and John Baggaley, or Baggilegh, died issueless in 1356. But in 31 Edw. III Sir John HYDE settles Norbury, and by name, only a moiety of Hyde, and the manor of Halghton (co. Lanc.) upon his children hereafter mentioned. [See further, Godley.]

"To his first wife he married Margaret [or qy. Margery], daughter of Sir John [or rather Thomas?] DAVENPORT, [of Whetrogh?] by whom he had [the issue mentioned in the pedigree, and not] 1. John, and 2. Roger, [the 1st being apparently identical with Sir John himself, and] mentioned in settlements of the manor of Norbury and half of Hyde, 12 Edw. II and 31 Edw. III as issue of this marriage, who appears to have died without issue. He had [certainly issue the above Roger;] also issue William, mentioned in the last settlement (but not as a son of Margaret) who appears to have been issue by the second marriage [, but only appears so; for there can be little doubt that the whole of the children (except Thomas) were of one mother]; Ralph, ancestor of Hyde of Urmeston, co. Lanc.; John (according to Dugdale, who omits the first two); and according to a pedigree, apparently drawn from deeds (Harl. MSS, 2161), had also issue Hugh, Thomas and Robert, the last of which was of Halghton, 51 Edw. III, and married to [Margaret, or] Elizabeth, daughter of Robert STAVELEY. [By the HYDE MSS (Harl. 2112), he had also a daughter, Margery, who was included in the entail; but all these MSS and pedigrees differ so much (the HYDE MSS, for example, not giving either of the Johns), that it is preferable to follow the HYDE MSS. The Robert, said to have been of Halghton, was so most probably, till he became heir to his elder brother; at all events, through this Robert the descent must be traced.]

"This Sir John served under the Black Prince 30 Edw. III and sold the manors and estates of Shalcross, Ferneley, Godley, Newton, Heigham, &c. and his lands in Heaton."

Note 2: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, the eldest son of John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, died before the 31st year of Edward III (1358).

Note 3: Roger HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was first in the entail of NORBURY and HYDE, dated in the 31st year of Edward III (1358). He died without issue.

Note 4: About William HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, from George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p.808:

  "[V.] William de HYDE, third [or rather, second] son, and [probably] heir [to his father, if not to his brother Roger,] married, according to Dugdale, Margaret, daughter and heir of Sir John DAVENPORT, of BRAMHALL (BROMHALL), which from comparison of dates appears erroneous. H. MSS 2161 substitutes, and probably with correctness, Alice, daughter of Richard de BROMHALL. [He probably died without surviving issue, when the estates seem to have been vested in

"[VI.] Robert de HYDE [brother, not] son, of William, [and certainly his heir-at-law; who] appoints, 2 Hen. IV, Thomas Staveley of Staveley, his attorney for [livery of] his manors of Norbury and half of Hyde."

William HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was second in the entail of NORBURY and HYDE, dated in the 31st year of Edward III (1358). He was living in 1363. Though married to Alice de BROMHALL, daughter of Richard de BROMHALL, he seems to have died without issue.

Note 5: Ralph Ralph HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, of whom there is record in the 31st year of Edward III (1358), had lands in Stavelegh in the 45th year of Edward III (1372). He was the ancestor of the HYDEs of Urmeston in Lancashire.

Note 6: John HYDE of MOTTRAM was living in the 20th year of Edward III (1347). He is likely to have died before the 31st year of Edward III (1358).

Note 7: Hugh HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was fifty years of age in the 22nd year of Richard II (1399).

Note 8: Margery HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was living in 1357.

Note 9: Alice UNKNOWN, the second wife of Sir John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, was active in the 38th year of Edward III (1365).

Note 10: Thomas HYDE of WARFORD, who was active in the 30th year of Edward III (1358), was married to Marion, or Mary, daughter of William de TABBELEGH, lord of Nether Knuttesford. She was co-heir to her brother William, who was active in the 46th year of Edward III (1373) and who died in the 21st year of Richard II (1398).

   

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G0510A: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE
Birth: ABT 1333, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: AFT 1401, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England
Father: Sir John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1300, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1364, Norbury County Cheshire, England)
Mother: Margaret DAVENPORT of WHELTROUGH (ABT 1305, Wheltrough, County Cheshire, England - BY 1350, Norbury, County Cheshire, England) [See G0509B: Margaret DAVENPORT of WHELTROUGH in Descendants of Orme de Davenport (1086 - AFT 1136).]

Marriage: 1328
Spouse: Margaret de STAVELEGH

Child 1: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1369, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - BEF 1439, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England) [M]: m. Unknown UNKNOWN

Child 2: William HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]

Child 3: Richard HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]

Child 4: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]

Note 1: The elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was named third in the entail of Norbury and Half Hyde in the 31st year of Edward III (1358). He was flourishing in the 13th year of Richard II (1390) and, in the 2nd year of Henry IV (1401), he was sued for dower by the younger Robert de Tatton.

   

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G0509A: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [019]
Birth: ABT 1369, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: BEF 1439, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Father: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1333, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1401, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England)
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN

Marriage: ABT 1409
Spouse: Unknown UNKNOWN

Child 1: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1390, Norbury County Cheshire, England - 1460, Norbury County Cheshire, England) [M]: m1. Matild MASSIE: m2. Katherine STANLEY

Child 2: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [M]

Note 1: The elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE is reported to have been wounded at Nether Alderley, in Cheshire, in 1421. He is known to have been Lord of Norbury and Hyde in 1425. he died before the 17th of Henry VI (1439).

   

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G0508A: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [018]
Birth: ABT 1390, Norbury County Cheshire, England
Death: 1460, Norbury County Cheshire, England
Father: Robert de HYDE (ABT 1329, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - BEF 1439, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England)
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN

Marriage: ABT 1413, Rixton, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Matild MASSIE

Child 1: Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1411, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - BEF 1477, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England) [M]: m. Margaret DAVENPORT of HENDBURY, ABT 1435

Other Marriage: AFT 1430
Spouse: Katherine STANLEY

Note 1: In a Stockport charter, John HYDE of NOREBURY and HYDE is mentioned as the Lord of Norbury in the 17th year of Henry VI (1439).

Note 2: Matild MASSIE, the first wife of John de HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, was the daughter of Hamo MASSIE of Rixton, Lancashire.

Note 3: Katherine STANLEY, the second wife of John de HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, was the daughter of Sir William STANLEY of HOTON and the widow of Ralph ARDERNE of HARDEN and ALVANLEY.

 

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G0507A: Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [017]
Birth: ABT 1411, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: BEF 1477, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England
Father: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1413, Norbury County Cheshire, England - 1460, Norbury County Cheshire, England)
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN

Marriage: ABT 1432
Spouse: Margaret DAVENPORT of HENDBURY

Child 1: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1433, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 1478, England) [M]: m. Margery BOTHE (BOOTH) of DUNHAM (ABT 1411, <Dunham Massey>, Cheshire, England - ?), 1454

Child 2: Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1439, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1523, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England) [M]: m. Margaret KINASTON (KNYVETON) of DERBY (born in Underwode, County Derby, England)

Other Marriage: ABT 1440
Spouse: Joan UNKNOWN (? - AFT 1477)

Child 1: Peres (Piers, Peter) HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1441, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1480, England) [M]

Child 2: Agnes HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1442, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. Edmund BERDESLEY, 1477

Note 1: Margaret DANENPORT of HENDBURY, the wife of Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, was the daughter of Thomas DAVENPORT of HENDBURY.

Note 2: On 26 September 1455, Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was granted license for two oratories in his manors at Norbury and Haighton. In 1465, he is listed as having collected a subsidy.

Note 3: Margery BOTHE (BOOTH), the wife of John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, was the daughter of William BOTHE (BOOTH) of Dunham Massey, County Cheshire and Maud DUTTON.

Note 4: Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was the heir of his brother, John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, who died without issue. Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE is known to have been living in the 18th year of Edward IV (1479) and in the 2nd year of Henry VIII (1511) [as by Inq(uisitio) p(ost) m(ortem) after the deaths of Matilda de Hondford and Robert Legh]. In 1511, Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was exempted from serving on juries.

Note 5: Edmund BERDESLEY, the husband of Agnes HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, was the son of Edmund BERDESLEY of NORBURYy, County Cheshire.

   

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G0506A: Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [016]
Birth: ABT 1439, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: AFT 1523, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England
Father: Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1411, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - BEF 1477, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England)
Mother: Margaret DAVENPORT of HENDBURY

Marriage: BY 1465
Spouse: Margaret KINASTON (KNYVETON) of DERBY (born in Underwode, County Derby, England)

Child 1: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1465, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 1528, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England) [M]: m1. *Margrett HOLOND (ABT 1469, Denton, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England - BEF 1510, County Cheshire, England), ABT 1490: m2. Unknown SCARGILL, ABT 1496 <Yorkshire>, England: m3. Katherine BOYDELL (ABT 1489, Pulcroft, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1511, County Cheshire, England), ABT 1510

Child 2: Joan HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1471, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. William BARDESLEY (ABT 1467, Bardesley, County Cheshire, England - ?), ABT 1492

Child 3: Ellen HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1473, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. John NEUTON (NEWTON) (BEF 1469, Newtown (Neuton), Longdendale (Longdenedel) Parish, Cheshire, England - ?), ABT 1493

Child 4: Giles (Egidius) HYDE of HOPTON WAFFERS (WALFORD) in Salopshire (Shropshire) (ABT 1477, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England - ?) [M]: m. Alice PLEYLEY, ABT 1502

Child 5: Unknown HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [F]: m. Nicholas MASSIE of WHICKLESWICK (or GIGLESWIK), County Lancashire

Child 6: Unknown HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [F]: m. Thomas MASSIE of COVENTRY

Child 7: Unknown HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [F]: m. Robert TATTON of WITHENSHAWE

Note 1: Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE is known to have been flourishing in the 18th year of Edward IV (1479) and in the 2nd year of Henry VII (1487). He was forty years of age in the 9th year of Henry VII (1494). For the descendancy of HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE from Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, see The Visitation at Cheshire of 1580: Hyde of Norbury.

Note 2: Alice PLEYLEY, the wife of Giles (Egidius) HYDE of HOPTON WAFFERS (WALFORD), was the daughter and heiress of George PLEYLEY of HOPTON WAFFERS (WALFORD) in Salop, Shropshire who, about 1480, married Katherina CARESWELL.

   

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G0505A: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [015]
Birth: ABT 1465, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: 1528, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England
Father: Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1454, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1523, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England)
Mother: Margaret KINASTON (KNYVETON) of DERBY (born in Underwode, County Derby, England)

Marriage: ABT 1490
Spouse: *Margrett HOLOND of DENTON (ABT 1470, Denton, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England - BEF 1510, County Cheshire, England)

Child 1: Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1491, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1526, England) [M]: m. *Margrett WARREN (ABT 1495, Poynton, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England - AFT 1524, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England), ABT 1516, <Poynton>, County Cheshire, England [See The Visitation at Cheshire of 1580: Warren de Pointon, Baron of Stockport.]

Child 2: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1495, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ABT 1561, England) [M]

Child 3: Agnes (or Anne) HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1502, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. John ARDERNE (ABT 1499, Alvanley, Runcorn, County Cheshire, England - 4 December 1551, England), 1523, County Cheshire, England

Other Marriage: ABT 1510
Spouse: Katherine BOYDELL (ABT 1489, Pulcroft, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1511, County Cheshire, England)

Child 1: Lawrence HYDE of GUSSAGE ST. MICHELL (ABT 1511, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 7 June 1590, West Hatch, Wiltshire, England: interment 16 June 1590, Tisbury, Wiltshire, England) [M]: m1. Mary HARTGILL, 1536, <Culmington, Somersetshire>, England; m2. Anne SIBELL (ABT 1537, Farmingham, County Kent, England - 2 March 1605/06, West Hatch, Wiltshire, England), ABT 1554

Other Marriage: ABT 1520 <Yorkshire>, England
Spouse: Unknown SCARGILL (ABT 1475, Yorkshire, England - ?)

Note 1: From George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 808:

  "XII. Robert HYDE, of HYDE and NORBURY, [fifth, not] fourth in descent from Robert last mentioned [G0509A: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE] [and 12th possessor,], died [in, or a little before, 1528; who by an Inq.] 22 Hen. VIII (1531) [now lost, was then] holding inter alia, half of this manor, eight messuages, and 640 acres of land therein from John LEGH of BAGGILEY, by the yearly payment of 4s. leaving his grandson Robert his heir. By a [second, not] third marriage this Robert (the elder) was ancestor to the HYDES of Westhatch, of whom was Edward HYDE, Earl of Clarendon, and Chancellor of England, grandfather, through his daughter, Anne HYDE, Duchess of York, of Anne and Mary, succesively Queens of England."

Note 2: Margrett HOLOND of DENTON, the wife of Robert HYDE, was the daughter of Richard HOLLAND of DENTON, born about 1443 in Denton, Lancashire, England.

Note 3: John ARDERNE, the husband of Anne HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, was the son of Ralph ARDERNE (ABT 1460, Aldford, County Cheshire, England - 14 January 1539/40) and Margaret DAVENPORT, born about 1470 in Henbury cum Pexall, Macclesfield, County Cheshire. Matilda DAVENPORT was the daughter of Thomas DAVENPORT (ABT 1467, Henbury cum Pexall, Macclesfield, County Cheshire, England .

Note 4: Sir Lawrence HYDE of GUSSAGE ST. MICHELL, from the family ARUNDEL, leased Wardour Castle at Wardour, Wiltshire.

Note 5: Mary HARTGILL, the first wife of Lawrence HYDE of GUSSAGE ST. MICHELL, was the daughter of William HARTGILL of CULMINGTON in Somersetshire.

Note 6: Anne SIBELL, the second wife of Lawrence HYDE of GUSSAGE ST. MICHELL, was the daughter of Nicholas SIBELL of FARMINGHAM in Kent. She was first married to Matthew COLTHURST (ABT 1512, Wardour Castle, Wiltshire or Claverton, Somersetshire, England - 8 July 1559, <Wardour Castle, Wiltshire>, England) about 1526 in County Suffolk, England.

Anne SIBELL was the great grandmother of the sisters, Queen Mary II and Queen Anne, the daughters of King James II.

Matthew COLTHURST, who was Treasurer of the Ordnance under Queen Mary, had been first married to Anne GRIMSTON who was born about 1513 in County Suffolk. She was the daughter of Thomas GRIMSTON.

Upon the dissolution of the monasteries, friaries, and convents, Matthew COLTHURST, who was the son of Henry COLTHURST (BEF 1516, Standen, Great Mitton, Yorkshire West Riding, England - 8 July 1559, England) and Unknown PARKER of Horrocksford and Browsholme, Yorkshire, England, acquired much property in Somersetshire.

   

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G0504A: Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [014]
Birth: ABT 1491, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: AFT 1526, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England
Father: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1465, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 1528, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England)
Mother: *Margrett HOLOND (ABT 1469, Denton, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England - BEF 1510, County Cheshire, England)

Marriage: ABT 1516, <Poynton>, County Cheshire, England
Spouse: *Margrett WARREN (ABT 1495, Poynton, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England - AFT 1524, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England) [See The Visitation at Cheshire of 1580: Warren de Pointon, Baron of Stockport.]

Child 1: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (1522, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 1571, Norbury, County Cheshire, England) [M]: m1. Margaret DUKINFIELD of DUKINFIELD, No Date :m2. Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL (ABT 1525, Bromhall [or Bramhall], Stockport, County Cheshire England - AFT 1566, County Cheshire, England), ABT 1542, County Cheshire, England [See G0503A: Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL in Descendants of Orme de Davenport (1086 - AFT 1136) and see The Visitation at Cheshire of 1580: Dabenport, alias Damport, of Bromhall.]: m3. Unknown SNEDE of BRADWELL (born in Staffordshire, England), No Date: m4. Katherine CHOLMONDELEY of CHOLMONDELEY, No Date: m5. Unknown SPURSTOWE of SPURSTOWE, No Date

Child 2: Lawrence HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1522, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [M]

Child 3: Catherine HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1524, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. Unknown STRAINGEWAIES (of Lancashire), ABT 1548

Note 1: Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, born about 1491, did not survive his father, Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE.

Note 1: Margrett WARREN, the wife of Hamnet HYDE, was the daughter of Lawrence WARREN of POYNTON, born about 1469 in Poynton, County Cheshire, England.

   

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G0503A: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [013]
Birth: 1522, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: 17 January 1570/71, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Father:
Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1491, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1526, <Norbury, County Cheshire>, England)
Mother: *Margrett WARREN (ABT 1495, Poynton, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England - AFT 1524,
<Norbury, County Cheshire>, England)

Marriage: ABT 1542, County Cheshire, England
Spouse: Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL (ABT 1525, Bromhall [or Bramhall], Stockport, County Cheshire England - AFT 1566, County Cheshire, England) [See
G0503A: Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL in Descendants of Orme de Davenport (1086 - AFT 1136) and see The Visitation at Cheshire of 1580: Dabenport, alias Damport, of Bromhall.]

Child 1: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (25 March 1543, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 22 March 1614, Norbury, County Cheshire England: interment 6 April 1614 at Stockport, County Cheshire, England) [M]: m. *Beatrix CALVELEY (or CALVERLEY) (ABT 1545, Calverley, Yorkshire, England - December 1624: interment 21 December 1624 at Stockport, County Cheshire, England), ABT 1562, County Cheshire, England

Child 2: Hamon HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1545, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [M]

Child 3: William HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1547, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [M]

Child 4: Dorothy HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1548, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - May 1593, Prestbury, Cheshire, England: interment 14 May 1593, Prestbury, Cheshire, England) [F]: m. William DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of WOODFORD (ABT 1543, Woodford, Cheshire, England - 2 April 1632, Prestbury, Cheshire, England), 26 January 1569/70, Chester, Cheshire, England

Child 5: Edward HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1549, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [M]

Child 6: Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, Doctor of Divinity at Salisbury (ABT 1551, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - December 1618, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England: interment 9 December 1618, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England) [M]: m. Mary UNKNOWN

Child 7: Richard HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1553, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1560, England) [M]

Child 8: Randall HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1555, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 1625, England) [M]

Child 9: Anne HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1559, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. John HIGHAM (HEUGHAM) alias HYDE of HIGHAM (HEUGHAM), Werneth, in Cheshire

Child 10: Ellin HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1561, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. Thomas UNWIN (or UNWYN) of SUSSEX

Other Marriage: BEF 1542
Spouse: Margaret DUKINFIELD of DUKINFIELD

Other Marriage: No Date
Spouse: Unknown SNEDE of BRADWELL (born in Staffordshire, England)

Other Marriage: No Date
Spouse: Katherine CHOLMONDELEY of CHOLMONDELEY

Other Marriage: No Date
Spouse: Unknown SPURSTOWE of SPURSTOWE

Note 1: The construction of this family-group has been a topic of controversy. George Ormerod, as emended by Thomas Helsby, reports that the elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, the father of this family-group, was first married to Margaret (or perhaps Katherine) DUKENFIELD, the daughter of John or Robert DUKENFIELD of DUKENFIELD, and that, except perhaps for two unnamed daughters, he engendered by her all of his children. Ormerod and Helsby report that the elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was second married to Jane DAVENPORT, the daughter of William DAVENPORT of BROMHALL (BRAMHALL), by whom he possibly engendered the two unnamed daughters. (Ormerod's and Helsby's interpretation of the DUKINFIELD pedigree is confused as to whether Margaret or Katherine DUKENFIELD of DUKENFIELD, as wife to Robert HYDE, was the daughter of John or Robert DUKINFIELD of DUKINFIELD; but Robert Glover, in 1566, recorded Margaret DUKENFIELD of DUKENFIELD as having been the wife of Robert HYDE and as having been the daughter of Robert DUKENFIELD of DUKENFIELD. [See The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580, Made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy King of Arms, with Numerous Additions and Continuations, Including Those From the Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566, by the Same Herald, with an Appendix, Containing the Visitation of a Part of Cheshire in the Year 1533, Made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceaux King of Arms, and a Fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the Year 1591, Made by Thomas Chaloner, Deputy to the Office of Arms, edited by John Paul Rylands, F. S. A. (London 1882), pp. 81 - 82]) Ormerod and Helsby also report that he was third married to Unknown SNEDE of BRADWELL, fourth married to Katherine CHOLMONDELEY of CHOLMONDELEY (pronounced "chumly") [sister to Sir Hugh CHOLMONDELEY of CHOLMONDELEY and the widow of Richard PRESTLAND of WARDLEY], and fifth married to Unknown SPURSTOWE of SPURSTOWE [the widow of John LEGH of BOOTHES]. [See George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 811.]

The elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, the father of this family-group, is known to have been alive during the Somerset Herald's - that is, Robert Glover's - Visitation of Cheshire in 1566. He was eight years of age in the 22nd year of Henry VIII (1531) and, having thus been born in 1522 or 1523, he was about 44 years of age in 1566.

With the elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE as his contemporary informant by whom fee was paid for listing the descendancy of HYDE of NORBURY in the record of visitation, Glover reported in 1566 that all of the children of the elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE were heirs to the body of Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL. And Ormerod and Helsby agree that Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL was alive in 1566. [See George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 827.]

Glover's treatment of this family-group is preserved in London, British Library, MS Harley 1424, fol. 82 and in MS Harley 1505, fol. 85b; and Glover repeated his findings of 1566 during his visitation of Cheshire in 1580. For this, see The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580, Made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy King of Arms, with Numerous Additions and Continuations, Including Those From the Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566, by the Same Herald, with an Appendix, Containing the Visitation of a Part of Cheshire in the Year 1533, Made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceaux King of Arms, and a Fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the Year 1591, Made by Thomas Chaloner, Deputy to the Office of Arms, edited by John Paul Rylands, F. S. A. (London 1882), pp. 131 - 132, as is printed thus:

Glover was certainly aware that Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE had been married to a Margaret DUKINFIELD of DUKINFIELD but, to their union, he attributes no offspring. For this, see The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580, Made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy King of Arms, with Numerous Additions and Continuations, Including Those From the Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566, by the Same Herald, with an Appendix, Containing the Visitation of a Part of Cheshire in the Year 1533, Made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceaux King of Arms, and a Fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the Year 1591, Made by Thomas Chaloner, Deputy to the Office of Arms, edited by John Paul Rylands, F. S. A. (London 1882), p. 82.

Of Margaret DUKINFIELD of DUKINFIELD, the only contemporary record seems to be the Will of Robert DUKINFIELD of DUKINFIELD, dated 23 March 1546, in reference to her as a daughter. This document, however, appears to furnish no clue as to her marital status and no evidence by which to question the findings of Robert Glover.

Glover's reports of 1566 and 1580 were affirmed, in 1613, by Richard St. George and Henry St. George. See Pedigrees Made at the Visitation of Cheshire, 1613, Taken by Richard St. George, Esq., Norroy King of Arms, and Henry St. George, Gent., Bluemantle Pursuivant of Arms, and Some Other Contemporary Pedigrees, edited by Sir George J. Armytage, Bart., F. S. A., and J. Paul Rylands, Esq., F. S. A., printed for The Record Society, 1909, p. 135.

Because it seems more likely that, in Cheshire, there was more than one person named Robert HYDE than that the elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was five times wedded, the marital history that Ormerod and Helsby have constructed for the elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE appears suspect. And, however the maternity of his offspring may be attributed, the plain meaning of what the elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE submitted to Robert Glover in 1566 is that - at the very least - the younger Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, his son and heir, was the son of Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL.

That George Ormerod, in 1819, or Thomas Helsby, in 1882, may have known better than Robert Glover, in 1566, what the facts were concerning the maternal parentage of the children of the elder Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE is certainly arguable. But, since neither Ormerod nor Helsby furnished any argument, it seems prudent to follow Glover.

Note 2: From George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 809:

  "XIII. Robert HYDE of HYDE and NORBURY, esq. the grandson and heir, seems to have been the 13th owner of the estates, and whose inquisition was taken as follows: -

"Inq. p. m. 13 Eliz. Robert HUYDE, esq. held the manor of Norburye; also a moiety of the manor of Huyde, and 8 messuages, 600 acres of land, 40 of meadow, 40 of pasture, 20 of wood, 20 of moor, and 10 of turbary, therein, of Edward Leigh of Bagalegh, esq. in socage, and by a yearly rent service of 4s.: Val. p. a. 11. 16s. 2d. Died Jan. 17th last. Robert HUYDE, son and heir, aged 28, on the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary last."

Note 3: After the death of his first wife, Dorothy HYDE, William DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of WOODFORD was married to Elizabeth DIMOCKE (ABT 1564, <Chester>, Cheshire, England - December 1615, Prestbury, Cheshire, England: interment 13 December 1615 at Prestbury, Cheshire, England) on 23 July 1594. Elizabeth DIMOCKE was the daughter of William DIMOCKE.

After the death of his second wife, Elizabeth DIMOCKE, William DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of WOODFORD seems to have married Anne WARREN on 1 January 1616 at Prestbury, County Cheshire, England.

William DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of WOODFORD was the son of Christopher DAVENPORT of WOODFORD (ABT 1530, Woodford, County Cheshire, England - 13 January 1592, County Cheshire, England: interment 18 January 1592, Prestbury, County Cheshire, England) and Jane GERRARD (ABT 1530, Crewood, County Cheshire, England - May 1563, County Cheshire, England: interment 16 May 1653, Prestbury, County Cheshire, England) who were married 19 September 1547 at Crewood, County Cheshire, England. Jane GERRARD was the daughter of Sir William GERRARD, Lord Chancellor of Ireland.

Note 4: John HIGHAM (HEUGHAM) alias HYDE of HIGHAM (HEUGHAM), the husband of Anne HYDE, was the son of Robert HIGHAM (HEUGHAM) of HIGHAM (HEUGHAM), Werneth, Cheshire and Unknown HOPWOODE of the CLIFFE, daughter of HOPWOODE of the CLIFFE.

Note 5: Margaret DUKINFIELD of DUKINFIELD, the putative first wife of Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE, was the daughter of John DUKINFIELD of DUKINFIELD, County Cheshire.

   

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G0502A: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [012]
Birth: 25 March 1543, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death: 22 March 1614, Norbury, County Cheshire England
Interment: 6 April 1614, Stockport, County Cheshire, England
Father:
Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (1522, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 17 January 1570/71, Norbury, County Cheshire, England)
Mother: Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL (ABT 1525, Bromhall [or Bramhall], Stockport, County Cheshire England - AFT 1566, County Cheshire, England) [See
G0503A: Jone (or Jane) DAMPORT (DAVENPORT) of BROMHALL in Descendants of Orme de Davenport (1086 - AFT 1136) and see The Visitation at Cheshire of 1580: Dabenport, alias Damport, of Bromhall.]

Marriage: ABT 1562, County Cheshire, England
Spouse: *Beatrix CALVELEY (or CALVERLEY) (ABT 1545, Calverley,
Yorkshire, England - December 1624: interment 21 December 1624 at Stockport, County Cheshire, England)

Child 1: Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (1563, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - May 1643, Norbury, County Cheshire, England) [M]: m. Mary WARREN of POYNTON (ABT 1564, Poynton, County Cheshire, England - 28 March 1639, County Cheshire, England; interment at Stockport, County, Cheshire, England), 1583

Child 2: Anne HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1567, Norbury, County Cheshire - ?) [F]: m. Richard de RISLEY (ABT 1567, Risley, County Derby, England - ABT 1597, Winwick, Lancashire, England), 11 September 1593, Winwick, Lancashire, England

Child 3: William HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1568, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 1637) [F]: m1. Ellen STUBBS (1573, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?), 21 July 1609, Prestbury, County Cheshire, England: m2. Eleanor MOLINEAUX, ABT 1588

Child 4: Urian HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1569, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [M]

Child 5: Margrett HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1571, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 24 March 1625, Farnsworth, Lancashire, England: interment at Farnsworth, Lancashire, England) [F]: m. George HULTON (ABT 1567, <Farnsworth, Lancashire>, England - 7 February 1613, Farnsworth, Lancashire, England: interment at Farnsworth, Lancashire, England), 26 February 1592/93, Stockport, County Cheshire, England

Child 6: Beatrix HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1572, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - July 1628, Thornton, Buckinghamshire, England: interment 20 July 1628 at Thornton, Buckinghamshire, England) [F]: m. John FRODSHAM of ELTON (ABT 1571, Elton, County Cheshire, England - ?), 1592

Child 7: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1573, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 10 September 1615, England) [M]

Child 8: Alice HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1575, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - [F]: m. Richard JOYCE (ABT 1573, Wiltshire, England - ?), ABT 1598, <Norbury>, County Cheshire, England

Child 9: Elizabeth HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1576, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. Francis GORE (born in Tupton, County Derby, England), ABT 1605, County Cheshire, England

Child 10: Thomas HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1577, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [M]

Child 11: Mary HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1578/79, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - AFT 16 August 1644, <London>, England) [F]: m. John NUTHALL III of CATTENHALL (1577, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England - AFT 16 August 1644, <London>, England), ABT 1606, Norbury, County Cheshire, England [See G0501A: John NUTHALL III of CATTENHALL in Antecedents and Descendants of John Nuthall of Cross Manor (BEF 10 February 1614/15 - July 1667).]

Child 12: Jane HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1579, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]: m. Edward VAWDREY (born in Riddings, County Derby, England), December 1587, Stockport, County Cheshire, England

Child 13: John HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1580, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - June 1605 [by drowning]: interment at Stockport, County Cheshire, England) [M]

Child 14: Catherine HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (ABT 1585, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 2 February 1656, England) [F]: m. m1. William HULTON (born in Hulton, Lancashire): m2. Roger NOWEL of READE (born in Reade, Lancashire): m3. Saville RADCLIFFE of TODMORDEN (born in Todmorden, Lancashire)

Note 1: Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE was 28 years of age on the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the 13th of Elizabeth I. This was 25 March 1571, placing the birth of Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE on 25 March 1543.

Note 2: From George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 3, p. 809:

  "XIV. Robert HYDE of HYDE and NORBURY, esq. died several years before his Inq. which was not taken earlier perhaps in consequence of the absence of his son abroad; but the lapse of time is singularly long.

"Inq. p. m. 18 Jac. I. Robert HYDE held the manor of Norbury; also half the manor of Hyde, and the messuages and lands aforesaid, of Richard Leigh, esq. as of his manor of Baguley, in socage, by fealty, and a rent of 6d.: Val. p. a. 5. Died at Norbury March 22, 11 Jac. I. Hamnet HYDE, son and heir, aged 55 years."

Note 3: Hamnet HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE is known to have been 17 years of age in 1580 and to have died in May 1643.

Note 4: William HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE is said to have been the father of William HYDE (1600, Stockport, County Cheshire, England - 6 January 1681, Norwich Connecticut, British North America), the founder and original proprietor of the colony at Hartford.

Note 5: Mary WARREN of POYNTON, the wife of Hamnet HYDE, was the daughter of John WARREN of POYNTON (1535, Poynton, County Cheshire, England - 7 December 1587, County Cheshire, England: interment 14 December 1587 at Stockport, County Cheshire, England) and Margaret MOLINEAUX (ABT 1541, Sefton, Lancashire, England - 21 June 1617, County Cheshire, England: interment at Stockport, County Cheshire, England

Note 6: Richard de RISLEY, the husband of Anne HYDE, was the son of John de RISLEY and Magledine GRIANDITCH, of Risley, Lancashire, England.

Note 7: George HULTON, the husband of Margrett HYDE, was the son of Alan HULTON and Margaret POTTER of Lancashire, England.

   

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G0501A: Mary HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE [011]
Birth
: ABT 1578/79, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Death
:
AFT 16 August 1644, <London>, England
Father
:
Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE (25 March 1543, Norbury, County Cheshire, England - 22 March 1614, County Cheshire England: interment 6 April 1614 at Stockport, County Cheshire, England)
Mother
: *Beatrix CALVELEY (or CALVERLEY) (ABT 1545, Calverley,
Yorkshire, England - December 1624: interment 21 December 1624 at Stockport, County Cheshire, England)

Marriage: ABT 1606, Norbury, County Cheshire, England
Spouse
: John NUTHALL III of CATTENHALL (1577, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England -
AFT 16 August 1644, <London>, England) [See G0501A: John NUTHALL III of CATTENHALL in Antecedents and Descendants of John Nuthall of Cross Manor (BEF 10 February 1614/15 - July 1667).]

Child 1: Elizabeth NUTHALL of CATTENHALL (1607, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England; christened 2 January 1607/08 at St. Lawrence's Parish, Frodsham, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]

Child 2: Jane NUTHALL of CATTENHALL (1609, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England; christened 14 May 1609 at St. Lawrence's Parish, Frodsham, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]

Child 3: Margaret NUTHALL of CATTENHALL (1610, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England; christened 25 August 1610 at St. Lawrence's Parish, Frodsham, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]

Child 4: Alice NUTHALL of CATTENHALL (1611, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England; christened 7 December 1611 at St. Lawrence's Parish, Frodsham, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]

Child 5: Richard NUTHALL of CATTENHALL (1612/13, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England; christened 5 March 1612 at St. Lawrence's Parish, Frodsham, County Cheshire, England - ?) [M]: m. Unknown UNKNOWN, BY 1633, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England

Child 6: Catherine NUTHALL of CATTENHALL (AFT 1613, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England - 1624, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England: interment June or 25 October 1624, St. Lawrence's Parish, Frodsham, County Cheshire, England) [F]

Child 7: John NUTHALL IV [of CROSS MANOR] (1614/15, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England; christened 10 February 1614 (OS), St. Mary’s Parish, Stockport, County Cheshire, England - July 1667, Cross Manor, St. Mary’s County, Maryland, British North America) [M]: m. *Elizabeth BACON (1609, England - AFT 27 July 1653, Northampton County, Virginia, British North America), ABT January/February 1643/44, Hungars Parish, Northampton County, Virginia, British North America [See G0500A: John NUTHALL IV of CROSS MANOR] in Antecedents and Descendants of John Nuthall of Cross Manor (BEF 10 February 1614/15 - July 1667).]

Child 8: William NUTHALL of CATTENHALL (AFT 1613, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England - January 1626/27, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England: interment January 1626/27, St. Lawrence's Parish, Frodsham, County Cheshire, England, ) [M]

Child 9: Ellen NUTHALL of CATTENHALL (1624, Cattenhall, County Cheshire, England; christened 13 June 1624 at St. Lawrence's Parish, Frodsham, County Cheshire, England - ?) [F]

Note 1: Robert Glover, Somerset Herald in the College of Arms, during the Visitation at Cheshire in 1580, recorded of John NUTHALL III, "aetatis 3 annor’m in 1580," that is, "of the age of 3 years in 1580." John NUTHALL III, therefore, was born in 1577. [See The Visitation at Cheshire of 1580: Nuthall of Cattenhall.] John NUTHALL III is recorded, with his children, in the Visitation at Cheshire of 1613. Note, evidently, was made during the Visitation at Cheshire of 1633 of the birth of Ellen NUTHALL in 1624 and, also in 1624, of the death of Catherine NUTHALL whose birth appears not to have occurred by 1613. John NUTHALL IV was born after 1613 and, by 1630, he was resident in Virginia; and this, perhaps, is the reason for his not appearing in the records of Visitation. Visitation records, it should be emphasized, are unofficial; and it is certainly not the case that, in each generation, all children are actually listed. Thus Ellen NUTHALL, who was christened in 1624, was not mentioned at the Visitation of 1613; but her name was added by a later redactor, probably John Paul Rylands. And Jane NUTHALL, who was christened in 1609, was also not mentioned at the Visitation of 1613; but, as with her sister Ellen, her name was added by a later redactor. In the manuscripts, including London, British Library, MS Harley 1070 (which includes the original document signed by John NUTHALL III), London, British Library, MS Harley 1535, and London, College of Arms, MS C.6, the births of such children as John NUTHALL III may have engendered between 1613 and 1624 are unremarked. In any case, since Richard NUTHALL was the designated heir to Cattenhall, John NUTHALL IV was fated to make his own way in the world.

George Ormerod in The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities (2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq.: George Routledge and Sons, Ludgate Hill, London, 1882), vol. 2, reported, on page 99, that John NUTHALL III was nine years of age in the 29th year of the reign of Elizabeth I (coronated 15 January 1559 [OS]) and was definitely known to be alive as late as 1642.

Note 2: Robert Glover, Somerset Herald in the College of Arms, during the Visitation at Cheshire in 1580, recorded of Mary HYDE that she was the daughter, perhaps the youngest, of Robert HYDE of NORBURY and HYDE and Beatrix CALVELEY, the daughter of Sir William CALVELEY of Yorkshire.

It is known, therefore, that Mary HYDE was alive in 1580; and, if she was perhaps a little younger than her husband, John NUTHALL III, her year of birth may be estimated as 1578/79. That Mary HYDE, the daughter of Robert HYDE and Beatrix CALVELEY, indeed married John NUTHALL III is verified in Pedigrees Made at the Visitation of Cheshire, 1613, Taken by Richard St. George, Esq., Norroy King of Arms, and Henry St. George, Gent., Bluemantle Pursuivant of Arms, and Some Other Contemporary Pedigrees, edited by Sir George J. Armytage, Bart., F. S. A., and J. Paul Rylands, Esq., F. S. A., printed for The Record Society, 1909 [College of Arms, MS C. 6, fol. 11].

Sir William CALVELEY, who died 27 October 1570, in Chester, County Cheshire, was High Sheriff of Yorkshire in 1549 - 50 and had been knighted by Edward Seymour (<1506>, Wolf Hall, Wiltshire, England - 22 January 1552, Tower Hill [the Tower of London], London, England), the Earl of Hertford (since 1537), at Norham Castle, on 23 September 1545. The wife of Sir William CALVELEY was Elizabeth SNEYD, the daughter of Sir William SNEYD of Stockeld, Yorkshire. The family SNEYD, however, is historically associated with Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire. In 1547, Sir William SNEYD was mining coal from the edges of lands which he has renting at Kidsgrove, Wolstanton, Staffordshire. And Sir William SNEYD, who died in 1567, was interred at St. Margaret’s, Wolstanton, Staffordshire. [See The Visitation at Cheshire of 1580: Hyde of Norbury]

Robert HYDE died 22 March 1614, in Norbury, County Cheshire, and was interred 5 April 1614 at Stockport, County Cheshire.

Beatrix CALVELEY died in 1624 and was interred 21 December 1624 at Stockport, County Cheshire.

Note 3: Maps of Stockport, Cheshire, in 1882:

St. Mary's Church, Stockport, Cheshire, where John NUTHALL IV was christened, is at the centre of this map, published in 1882.

   

Stockport, Cheshire, 1882

   

Note 4: George Ormerod (History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, p. 99), from the parish records, proved that Richard NUTHALL engendered Anne NUTHALL (christened 1 September 1633 at Frodsham), John NUTHALL (christened 5 October 1634 at Frodsham), and Katherine NUTHALL (christened 9 April 1637 at Frodsham).

Note 5: It is of interest that, at his death, John NUTHALL III left no Will to be proved in Cheshire. This means (1) that, at some time previous to his death, he had already alienated Cattenhall to Sir Arthur Aston, the son of the Sir Arthur Aston who, as the agent of George CALVERT, the first Lord Baltimore, was the proprietary governor of Avalon, and (2) that, at the time of his death, he was residing outside of Cheshire. [See Cattenhall in Cheshire.] The thesis here is that, at some time near to 1642, when he is last reported to have been active in Cheshire, John NUTHALL III converted his landed capital into other forms of wealth. It is by no means clear that his eldest son, Richard NUTHALL, actually inherited Cattenhall.

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